Talk, Talk, Talk. Now's The Time To Act

I get so frustrated with Government talkfests. Their fancy name is a “Summit”.

Whenever there’s a big issue facing this country which the politicians don’t know how to resolve without offending someone, they hold a “Summit” so they can “consult” with the community.

A whole lot of associations and lobby groups with vested interests are thrown together for the Summit, recommendations are made which politicians say they’ll “consider” and which are then promptly shelved, never to be heard of again.

Yes I’m a finance nerd, and probably naïve (okay, annoying as well), but I want to see if I can make a difference at the next summit. And I want your help.

I reckon our tax system is so unwieldy it is damaging this country. On October 4-5 there is going to be a Tax Summit to discuss overhauling Australia’s complicated and archaic tax system. The usual mix of business and welfare lobby groups have been invited but 30 “community” spots were left open for anyone who wanted to apply through the Federal Treasurer’s website.

I applied and jagged a spot.

Here’s where I need your help. I want you to put your thinking cap on and send me suggestions of what I should take to Canberra. Suggestions on how we can improve our tax system to make it simpler, fairer and provide incentive to work, save and build this country.

 

I want to specifically look at personal and small business taxes. The ones which affect us the most.

Big business and government are powerful enough to look after themselves.

Our Federal tax laws currently take 16,000 pages to explain. They are so complex that 71 per cent of people just give up and pay an average $320 to get a professional tax agent to do it for them.

Even then, our tax system is so complex that 22 per cent of all returns lodged by a professional tax agent contains errors.

It’s just crazy stuff.

Then there are fundamental issues like why should capital gains get better tax treatment than interest income on savings. What the?

Now I don’t want simple one line criticisms. Explain the tax issues most important to you and then outline how you think they can be improved.

I’ll then go through them all, flesh them out with the help of some tax experts and then come back to you with a list for comment.

A couple of thought starters I’ve been mulling over are;

. Limit the tax benefits of negative gearing

Look, negative gearing of investments has got way out of hand. Is there an argument to limit the amount of negative gearing which can be claimed?

What about grandfathering all existing negatively geared investment property, but in the future only newly built property could be negatively geared to stimulate the housing market and improve affordability.

. Improve the tax treatment of savings income

Compared with the rest of the world Australians (and their super fund managers) are risk takers. We have more invested in the sharemarket than virtually any other country in the world and suffer the most during crashes. It’s because or tax system is skewed against income returns on savings. We need balance that tax treatment up to be at least the same as on capital gains.

. Substantially lower the company tax rate for small business

Small business is the engine room of this country. They don’t sit in their flash offices using other people’s money. They put their own money at risk, put their houses on the line and work bloody hard.

But there doesn’t seem any incentive to take that big risk.

Why not have significantly lower corporate tax rate for small businesses to encourage them to start and keep growing. The bigger they get, the more people they employ, the more tax they’ll pay and Australia is the winner.

. Rebate payroll tax if a small business employs above a certain number

I know payroll tax is a State tax but there’s no reason why the Federal Government can’t rebate the tax back to a small business person if they employ about a certain amount of staff. It’s a practical way of encouraging small business to employ more.

Hopefully this gets you thinking and I would love your suggestions.

My promise is that each will be considered carefully and I promise to report back

 


Comments  

 
0 #199 2011-09-13 19:11
Hi David,

1) Reduce the top tax rate to 30% equal that of company tax rate. The biggest thing i hate is how governments tax the hell out of people that want to work hard and get ahead. i imagine that the number of "cashie" jobs would reduce as well if this was to happen.

2) Stop the means testing on Family benefits. No one is on easy street when raising kids, so why penalise the ones that want to work harder and try and get ahead.

3)Remove STAMP DUTY, was it not supposed to be removed when GST was introduced. How much would this stimulate the housing market.

4)Give franking credits to the mining companies on the Mining tax, all Australian investors will get the tax back. All foreign will not.

Happy Hunting David

Regards Troy
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0 #198 2011-09-12 10:26
Hi Kochie,

I would love Australia to consider allow married couples to complete joint tax returns.

Allowing couples to complete joint tax returns would be a huge aid to couples moving from dual incomes to a single income when having a child.
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0 #197 2011-09-06 17:27
Kochie your negative gearing suggestion is great and I think also add foreign investment in Australian residential property should only be allowed for the purchase of new developments (i.e. not for existing homes as purchase of existing homes does not help the construction of new homes).
The debits tax is a great suggestion for a complete overhaul of the current tax system (i.e. moving to it as our only tax) as it ensures everyone pays their fair share (i.e. no tax loopholes and no multinationals tax monies offshore), it is simple,easy to understand and straightforward .
Perhaps SGC should not be paid on foreigners wages who work in Australia, instead this 9% should still be levied on their wages but directed to the government's budget to be invested in Australian infrastructure, schools, hospitals, a future fund (can't beleive Julia doesn't think Australian needs one....), etc. As the retirement needs of foreigners should not be a concern of our government.
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0 #196 2011-09-05 21:39
Hi David. I am a chartered accountant working in public practice. One issue that is causing a lot of trouble in at the moment for small business but not getting a lot of press is the way trust distributions are being taxed (in particular where distributions are made on paper to a company but funds are not paid out as they are retained in the trust to repay debt or used for working capital). In the past this was allowed however the ATO have released a tax rulling dissallowing it. The whole issue of taxing trusts needs to be reviewed and legislated.
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0 #195 2011-09-05 20:33
Hey Macca we are coming to a stand still NOW I am a property investor and I am selling the lot its way too expensive to be an investor in NSW Australia the taxes are criminal.
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0 #194 2011-09-05 20:29
David, You are so lucky you have the power so please use it to stop the pollies and public servants screwing us small business people daily.
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0 #193 2011-09-05 20:27
Have read all the comments and they are all the same if you work you keep your earnings if you spend you pay tax it is so simple STOP THE PUBLIC SERVANTS AND POLLIES MAKING IT SO COMPLICATED it just keeps those wallies employed!!!!!!!
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0 #192 2011-09-05 16:45
Hey Koshman,

I think they should stop wasting money by collecting tax just to re disperse it back to people, it must cost millions to this so why not just charge less tax and have no refunds, this way people would have a bit more money all year around to encourage spending instead of just waiting to buy things when the get there tax back.
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+2 #191 2011-09-05 15:11
Income splitting. I work and my wife stays at home to raise our children. I should be able to split my income 50/50 with my wife.
If I was a bricklayer, I would have my own business and "pay" my wife to do the books - reducing the tax I pay as we'd both earn half of the bricklaying money. Because I am an employee I can't do this.
Financially we'd be better off if we both worked part-time and earned half an income each - but in reality it would be hard to do.
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0 #190 2011-09-05 13:47
Don't let over time push us into higher tax brackets. f I am willing to work 5x12hrs & 1x8hr shift why should it be used to push me int a higher tax bracket? Just tax ot at a flat rate of I don't know how about 25%?
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0 #189 2011-09-05 13:20
Why not throw out all the tax rules, and just have a national GST that is controlled by the Reserve Bank? That way everyone pays their share, and the Reserve Bank have a means of slowing down the economy when they need to. Pay going into a persons bank account would attract a GST, money being taken out would also have a GST. It should have no exceptions - every Good or Service should have the Tax on it. But also, every other tax should be removed. Visitors to the country would pay their fair share, churches would pay their fair share, refugees would pay their fair share. And the whole system could be summed up in a single page!
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0 #188 2011-09-05 13:08
I wonder why when comparing both family with 4 kids, one on dole and us, both working parents (forever), it seems they are much better off. I do not receive anything from Centrelink nor my 2 kids over 16 because they are dependent on our income. If a family on dole with 2 over 16 yr olds, the parents will get so much from Centrelink, concessions for all utilities, pbs and vicrods, and the kids, too even if they do not go to school full time. No wonder some really do not even try to better themselves, because there is a much easier way out.
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0 #187 2011-09-05 10:45
Kochie, I would like to see some serious research and modelling into a flat tax (FT) rate. The rate doesn't matter as long as it is set correctly.
If we have a, say 10% FT for all including companies, PAYG, GST... everything, it just won't be viable for anyone to spend money trying to avoid paying tax. There will be a real incentive to work harder, longer for employees as they get a greater % of the overtime that they do work. Companies would be freed up to invest in real things and people and the Govt. will have a very simple system to run.
When a product/service changes hands or is added 10% is added at every level until it reaches the end user. This would also apply to goods imported and exported... of course.
This will mean that there is no longer any need for tax returns, there are zero deductions... a much easier system for everyone and would be on one sheet of paper if you had to read it!
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+1 #186 2011-09-05 10:13
[quote name="Jess"] However I don't agree with changing the rules for capital gains vs savings. Sure, we should encourage everyone to have some savings, but the tax break for capital gains is the reward for taking the risk and investing. If no one took a risk (for a reward), no one would bother investing and the country would come to a standstill.

Jess, what do you think the banks will do with the extra cash savings? Allocate it by loaning to business, they are far better at assessing risk than you or I. And have scale to smooth out the good with the bad loans. The debt/equity mix is far different in other countries where investors seek stable returns such as Germany. And, who says cash in not an investment?
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